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  • Fritzkat
    started a topic Fins Tested on the HELLFIRE as TRI and Quad

    Fins Tested on the HELLFIRE as TRI and Quad

    I started riding the 6-4 HELLFIRE FST as a trifin using others suggestions to use the largest fin possible as the board is already set up to be loose and you want to stiffin it up.

    AM-2s (TRIfin) (4.79 fronts with 4.5 rears) worked great. tested on 1.5X overhead waves. Drove As hard off the bottom I could lean into without my knees catching the wave and they held great. Cranking off the top/lips the fins held nicely power turning as tight as my body could contort in comfort zone. Pumping down the line easily captured the speed I wanted for each manuver ahead. I knew if I had better knees I would be attempting airborn missions no problem with that speed. I cant wait for a decent backside day soon to test my heavy back hand carve displacing bathtubs of water.
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    Stamps (QUADfin) 4.54 fronts with 4.0 rears) tested at Head high + waves. These fins worked best on a point break and absolutly flew down the line on any pump, sometimes a little too fast for me to read the wave ahead. I feel the back fins might be a little large for the waves that day as I was not getting the release I wanted out of them.
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    Next test...Stamps fronts 4.54 maybe switch the Stamps 4.0 rears out with the Rusty 3.85 rears. On a bigger day I might Pair these Stamps rears 4.0 with the AM-2 fronts 4.79.

  • Slop Dogg
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    I rode Solus fronts and SA-4 rears the other day. The V-foil in the Solus fins really helped me generate speed through some of mushier, flat faced sections. I've heard people say the complete SA-4 setup is a bit rigid, making the release out of snap turns tricky; I agree to a certain extent. The complete SA-4 set up is good for racey days, down-the-line speed, boosting and dumping slot machines. I must say however, the Solus fronts and SA-4 rears worked really well. Plenty of drive, plenty of hold off my bottom turns but not so tight that I couldn't get cheeky.

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  • Coastandtoast
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    I am riding solus fins as a thruster and as a quad I throw in the rear fins from my elevon set with solus fronts. Both setups have great hold and drive in the head high range. Really though I swear you could throw cheese slices in the fin boxes and the hellfire would still kick ass.

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  • Tescot
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    Quick thoughts... Rode the (FCS) HI-1 quad set when I first got the board (700) and it was a little stiff. Removed the rear fins and kept the front, (19.? sq"), threw in an Aipa center fin (small, I'll see if I can find the dimensions somewhere) and the board was like magic. Then lost that center fin in the reef and had to return the borrowed HI-1 set. Now trying other stuff... Rode the K2.1 quad set with a nubster - didn't dig that. Rode the K2.1 quad set (normal), but it was a little to small for me to be able to really get any performance out of them. I'll keep updating as the waves and fin sets change.

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  • Chris
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    that looks like a pretty fun one...

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  • jynxz
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    Just tryed my new 6'4 Hellfire with the AM2's in the front and the True Ames quad rears and Im really liking it. Theyre just a tad bigger than the Rustys or the Stretch's which I found a bit too loose. Also the quality is excellent on them I have to say. I got the Hexcore ones to match the characteristics of the AM2's. I tryed them out for the first time today on waist high waves and they had plenty of drive but still felt loose enough to throw around easily. looking at the swell and hopefully Ill be trying them out on some head high + long point breaks tomorrow so cant wait.
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  • Chris
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    great thread!!!

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  • silentp
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    hey jynxz, I have bought futures fins in singles, pairs any combo you want,just ask your surf shop and they should be able to help, in OZ anyway.

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  • jynxz
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    Anyone had any experience with the True Ames Fins (http://trueames.com/shop/timmy-patte...futures-fins-1).

    I bought a set of AM2s Futures for my new 6'4 Hellfire as I always rode my last one as a Thruster, but I just tried it as a quad and I really like it. I really fancy the Rusty R1's rears with AM2 Fronts (Thanks for doing all the hard yards on the research Fritz) but dont fancy shelling out for the whole Rusty set if Im not going to use them. So was thinking I can order the True Ames rears at half the cost, which seem similar dimensions (H:100 x B:98 vs H:98 x B:95 - Rustys) with the added bonus that I can get the True Ames rears in Yellow Hexcore to match the AM2 fronts, so will be just like a 5 fin set.

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  • Fritzkat
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    this is a repeat from another forum, but should be here. Just tested the Snubster I made on my 6-4 HellFire with AM-2 fronts 4.79" and combo with V2F4 3.75" rears. Head High day. ( had a kink in my neck so I was not as loose as I wanted to be,) However. there did not seem to be any noticeable drag and there was a bit more hold, board was reactive during a carve with little or no sliding sideways. Good hold. Neck started bothering me so I could not retest with out them in the box on those same waves.
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    I have no need for fins any smaller on the front than the AM-2's therefore I will be selling my Rusty Trifin set. (keeping the quad rear) Rusty has too much flex in the tips for me.
    I am looking for the following quad rears, Surfboardwarehouse.com is looking into it.
    SA-4 quad rears and the AM-2 quad rears
    also looking for the V2 Roberts trifin set
    Last edited by Fritzkat; 06-30-2012, 12:49 AM.

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  • hwork50
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    Do you like the Solus better than the Rusty set?

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  • hwork50
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    Do you like the Solus better than the Rusty set?

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  • iggy
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    Found the AM2 hold better on bigger conditions than the SOLUS and what makes the biggest difference here is the centre fin of the souls. That hatchet makes for the SOLUS to be a very fun set to ride on anything up to shoulder high. It releases off the top nicely and in control.Great fluidity and speed
    The AM2 on the other hand is the kind of fin I put when waves gets over that. With enough punch and high speed these fins deliver powered and controlled maneuvers. Even though the flat foiled fins will release relatively easier than the V foiled ones, the centre fin on the AM2 gives you that extra hold on the bigger stuff, but when at speed they become lively

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  • iggy
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    Originally posted by hwork50 View Post
    Iggy, talk me through some of the differences in the AM2's versus the Solus?

    Brent
    All right...where to start.Sorry for the delay I've been out of town for the past 3 days

    AM2
    Height: 4.79 in, 12.20 cm
    Base: 4.70 in, 11.90 cm
    Area: 16.16 sq in, 104.26 sq cm
    A popular template for the light footed large surfer. The large base with medium tip helps with powerful bottom turns and releasing the fins off the top. Try this laid back template in wrapping point breaks.
    Validated fin designs will always form our foundation. If you have muscle memory from riding glass-ons, flat foiled fins will feel the closest. F
    SOLUS
    Front Fins:

    Height: 4.62 in, 11.73 cm
    Base: 4.40 in, 11.18 cm
    Area: 15.21 sq in, 98.13 sq cm



    Rear Fin:

    Height: 4.71 in, 11.96 cm
    Base: 3.38 in, 8.59 cm
    Area: 13.00 sq in, 83.87 sq cm
    The Solus is designed with a literal twist, increasing the angle of cant and tow from base to tip, while a Carbon/Texalium structure gives the fin a progressive flex. The Solus drives and holds no matter where you throw your board, and will enable you to do crisp fluid rail to rail transitions and tight arcing turns without losing speed. A large laidback template for drive off the bottom and wrapping cutbacks..
    V. Foils are designed to maximize lift with a minimal amount of drag. Fins with this V. Foils will find speed that you did not know was there, or help you get that extra gear to really find drive in your bottom turns. The leading edge of the fin is more rounded accepting more water flow at all angles of attack, and making the fin feel very fluid rail to rail.

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  • core personal training
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    sa4 good for fast open forehand..too restrictive for small vertical stuff...sa3 then...

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